Question:
If being gay is not a choice, then why do all religions consider it as a sin?
2016-11-23 09:50:17 UTC
So i'm a gay 17 year old guy, and i'm completely fine with it. But if being gay is not a choice and I was actually born like this. So why is it a sin in religions? Islam as well.
98 answers:
?
2016-11-23 21:11:11 UTC
Hi there, this is coming from a girl who goes to a very religious school that also believes homosexuality is a sin. First off, don't take it too seriously like it really is a sin. It's not a sin and it can't be a sin. Homosexuality has existed since the beginning of humanity. I think religions just say it's sinful to keep their morals intact with what they believe in, like marriage should only be between a man and a woman, no other alternative is acceptable because that's what society has seen mainly until recently. And I'm glad that you didn't choose to be gay, it was just a choice for you. Many religions also believe that homosexuality only goes by choice, and not by chance that someone could be born with it. I wish you didn't have homosexuality personally, but it's something that's pervasively growing in our society today no one can do anything about it. But the most important thing for you to know is that God loves everyone equally, he doesn't judge you if your sexuality is different. Being gay NEVER means you're a bad person, that's completely wrong and ignorant to think. A gay person could be the most amazing person in the world, he's just gay..but it never defines you as a person. So, don't think about it too much. God loves you and He always will, straight or not straight!



And going back to your comment, being gay is also a choice and I think that's what happens most of the time.
starrseeed
2016-11-23 11:06:08 UTC
Hi there! Well I'm really glad you already know that God loves you no matter what! We are only human after all! God just wants to protect us from harm.. Being gay can sometimes land people is tough situations .. Not just being bullied but also more serious things like AIDS or hate crimes. This is why gay may be correlated to sin.. It kind of can open up a can of worms. That and the whole "list" thing.. But He definitely loves everyone and you can still get into heaven! Just life here on earth might be a little harder for those who "live by the flesh/in sin.."
The Truth Straight Up
2016-11-23 10:12:57 UTC
Homosexuality has always been a sin. The Holy Bible is clear that God made Adam & Eve. A man should cleave unto his wife and the two shall become one flesh. A man that sleeps with another man is an abomination or a woman that sleeps with another woman. Remember the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? Well, it was destroyed because of sodomy/homosexuality and much sin. God did not send a warning to them "repent or i'll destroy it" - He only sent 2 Angels to see if Lot and his family were worthy to escape and they were (well except the wife was disobedient because she turned back because her heart was in the wrong place). Anyway, homosexuality is a choice - you may feel attracted to the same sex, but you don't have to go date a man or do more than that. You don't have to watch homosexual pornography - it's a choice.

What is not a choice is your skin color, the way you look - that, you were born with.

But if you keep on rejecting God and seeking the lust of the flesh - you will be give up on - you will be given over to a reprobate mind (see Romans 1). And hell is where you'll spend eternity. So it's best to deny the flesh and seek God and ask Him to deliver you out of this temptation that is not of Him.
Yorrik
2016-11-24 07:38:20 UTC
It's only the 'one God' religions which condemn homoxexuality. If you were to join a Pagan group, they would not say being 'gay' is a sin.



Anyone who has a problem with homosexuality, must first take on and defeat in an open debate, the mighty intellect of Sigmund Freud - here's what he said about being 'homosexual'.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/12/12/this-is-what-sigmund-freud-said-when-he-was-asked-about-a-gay-cure-5561850/



Gay Star News - check link - explains how it was in the pre-One God world of Greece and Rome

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/truth-about-sexuality-ancient-greece-and-rome261012/#gs.3PDtXa4



There is a saying in English - "The Greeks have a word for it." Thus, the more we learn of and about the Greeks, the more we will come to understand ourselves - strange though that may seem, for Western Civilization is founded entirely upon the Greeks and to some extent the Romans but most importantly, the Greeks.



We are only now just beginning to catch up with the Greeks as this link will help explain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbjfcikvhFY



Σας ευχόμαστε ό, τι καλύτερο για τα Χριστούγεννα και την Πρωτοχρονιά.
2016-11-23 12:59:55 UTC
Religions don't consider being gay a sin. What some religions consider a sin is gay sex. Having homosexual desires isn't sinful. You have no choice about that. What you have a choice about is what you do with those desires. You may feel the urge to kill someone, but that urge doesn't make you a murderer. The sin is found in acting on that urge -- in giving in to temptation.



Basically, the devil aside, we are all born with sinful impulses. There is no one who isn't. What particular temptation you wrestle with is irrelevant. Religion is about overcoming your sinful impulses, your base desires, to live a life that adheres to a higher law, that adheres to selflessness towards others rather than self-indulgence.
Huh?
2016-11-23 10:06:58 UTC
Of course it is not a choice. It is a natural and normal part of human sexual behavior. However, as with many other parts of normal human behavior religion has condemned this as a way to control its people, to exercise authority over every aspect of your life. It is why religion in general is such an evil perversion of what is good and moral.



Sin is irrelevant; morality, being a good citizen, being a positive influence in society, or being a good person is not about the religious definition of "sin." Secular morality is superior and doesn't have these arbitrary proclamations about the sex life between two consenting adults.
Alisha
2016-11-23 17:17:08 UTC
hey im sorry you have to read half these comments as most scare me. I have a firm belief in god however have no understanding of how being homosexual could be a sin. Yes god made man and woman to be together physically to maintain the species. However for those who say the "you cant be born gay" and "its unnatural" should really look at the animal kingdom. Its not just humans who can be gay animals too will mate male to male female to female. If this was a sin of man made by god then why would these homosexual relationships occur between other species. Surely if it was a test to see if a person could overcome sin it would not be present in other species. Just a thought
Default
2016-11-23 14:17:37 UTC
I'm not trying to be rude but nobodies born Gay it's not a genetic trait. All animals mate male and female. Animals don't have higher thinking like humans therefore a higher more complex thinking made it possible for someone to be homosexual so it's definitely a choice. God hates sin because of what it does to us. It nockes us off his path. By not committing sins we stay on Gods path and he protects us but if you keep doing that sin over and over you'll fall into deeper things that go along with it.
?
2016-11-23 16:56:54 UTC
Your right! being gay is not a choice, we are all born like this, go back to when you were about twelve years old or so, what were you doing for sex? But, some of us grow up and meat members of the oppeset sex, and we don't have to learn what to do next, God has endowed us with instructions that will result in the perpetuation of the Human Race. Opposing God's will and instruction is a sin and will result in the diminuation and eventual elimination of the human species..
2016-11-24 13:23:00 UTC
Hi - I'm a religious 17 year old brought up in a Christian school. You're gay and you like d*cks. I'm probably more charming than you and could pull more guys than you, but I'm not gay. Shouldn't you be on League of Legends? It's where all the real sin happens. I swear to my mothafuhkin holy spirit's wormydong!!
Annonymous
2016-11-24 07:45:23 UTC
I am a "born again" Christian, so I will let you know how MOST of our type stand on this. We believe that all people are born into sin stemming from original sin. We are all sinners, all with the proclivity and desire to sin, some in other sins but we have this proclivity, a pull, a desire, a tendency, to sin. I believe that a certain percentage of people have the proclivity towards homosexuality, I also believe the only way out of any sin is too acknowledge it before God and accept Jesus Christ forgiveness, and let God direct our lives. So I'm not advocating a deliverance out of homosexuality to heterosexuality, that's not what I'm advocating. I'm advocating making Jesus Christ the Lord of your life and following after him.



I realize this view is not a "popular" view, but then the Jesus I follow never did follow the popular culture of his day either.
2016-11-25 02:24:30 UTC
Many of the writings of the major religions were written the better part of 1,500 plus years ago.



A hundred years ago, social attitudes were very different to today. Women weren't allowed into Universities / Colleges (the numbers were miniscule, maybe 5% at best) as they were thought not to be able to cope. Women weren't able to compete at the Olympic at anything longer than the 800m (or thereabouts) until the 1972 and the marathon as it was thought they were "too hard for them"...



Divorce (in my country) was rare and pretty much unheard of prior to the 1970's. Unwed mother's prior to ~1970's were put into homes and their children were forcibly removed / adopted.



Slavery in the US was still practised til the mid to late 1800's...





The religions are written over a thousand years ago... Closer to 1,500 or more for the Bible and longer for the old testament...



There was no awareness of gay / transgender or anything else back then... Left handers were not considered normal (teachers were forcing them to be right handed til the 60's or 70's in my country)...
2016-11-26 09:06:55 UTC
Because it IS a choice to act upon it. No sane person considers it a sin to feel a certain type of way. If you feel attraction towards other guys, that is how you feel.



However, if you act upon your feelings and pay or offer $3x to another dude than it may be considered a sin.



I'd you believe in the 📑 than pretty much anything and EVERYTHING is a sin!
Shine
2016-11-23 12:25:10 UTC
Men loves women, they loves to look at women, to have relations with women. If possible every night with a new one will be great ! Isn't it ?



Yet, men are ordered to lower their gazes , not to have any romantic \ sexual relation with women out of marriage and having such relation out of marriage is considered one of the greatest sins.



The same is your case, regardless that I'm not sure if this can happen that some one is gay just like that.



It is all about controlling desires and not letting desires to control you. Because all men are really fine with looking at women and having relations out of marriage.



Is religion against human nature (regardless that "homosexuality" is not the human nature)\ human desire?

No :) and this is why religion allowed satisfying this sexual desire through marriage. But the point is that life is a test.



However, you can read this and I think it will help you get it better http://muslimmatters.org/2016/08/22/from-a-same-sex-attracted-muslim-between-denial-of-reality-and-distortion-of-religion/
Good Karma
2016-12-16 22:17:06 UTC
'cause it is a choice to act upon it... no sane person considers it a sin to feel a certain type of way... if you feel attraction towards other guys, that is how you feel...



however, if you act upon your feelings and pay or offer $3x to another dude than it may be considered a sin...



i'd you believe in the 📑 than pretty much anything and everything is a sin!
Ian
2016-11-24 02:29:03 UTC
Not all religions do. Hinduism has its hijras or eunuchs who are basically transsexuals and there are plenty of examples of tolerance for LGBT stuff in ancient religions. Thor got up in drag in one story, so did Achilles. The legend of Ganymede is basically about legitimising homosexual relationships (if gods can do it, so can people). The legend of Atlanta the virgin huntress has parallels in modern day Albania (a loosely Muslim country) where some women still choose to identify as men and take part in Macho activities such as hunting wild boar. Whatever the Quran says, many Muslim countries, such as Afghanistan and Azerbaijan have homosexual subcultures, and in the past homosexuality was widely accepted in Iran. The current homophobic attitudes there may originate from Communist propaganda of the twentieth century, not Islam. While Iranian religious law doesn't currently allow homosexual relationships, it does recognise transgender people, so many gay people choose to get sex changes, which are legal, in order to stay with their partners. The rate of sex change operations in Iran is second only to Thailand.



Wicca (roughly modelled on ancient pagan religions) is very open to homosexuals.
?
2016-11-25 06:21:11 UTC
Hypothetically speaking; yoiu have a shiny red Ferrari and you drive it 8 hours a day through the worst ghetto you can find in the most violent city in the country (example, Chicago). When you finally get car-jacked, was it your decision or was it forced upon you? Homosexuality is the same as being car-jacked. Demons are 5,000 year old invisible beings who are stuck here with no way out. They have the power to influence thinking to the point of overriding your will (car-jacked). After they have been in control for a while, you start to like the thrills they provide (See Patty Hurst who fell in love with her kidnappers and even helped them rob a bank). It was your choice to experiment. That is when you offered your Ferrari to the Bro and he's been taking you for a ride ever since. Soon, your Ferrari will be totaled. My homosexual uncle died of AIDS. Bro from the 'hood is a terrible driver. Then there is the opinion of the guy that gave you the Ferrari to begin with. He's not happy with your poor life choices. You were supposed to use it to get to Emerald city to visit him, but instead trashed it in the burbs of Chicago. Now your problem is getting Bro to give you back your car, or even mustering the will power to ditch his thrill-laced lifestyle for your true calling. Bro is the biggest, baddest dude in the hood and it won't be easy.
Bobby Jim
2016-11-23 10:59:26 UTC
Homosexuality is a sin because God declares it to be an abomination, a word He applies to every breech of His commandments. Every human being on earth is subject to sin, and many are predisposed to certain sins. A predisposition to certain sins may seem to limit one's options, and point one further along that path. But if you believe in Jesus; if you read the testimonies of Paul's Epistles; you will know that choosing a gay path for yourself is indeed a choice.
Al
2016-11-24 07:59:00 UTC
Religion is a man made thing, God is not Religious, God does not require us to be Religious.... The Bible clearly states that the Kingdom of Heaven is Within You, that can only mean one thing, God resides within you also, I don't believe at the core of our spirit we have any gender, I think we are all things and probably things we never considered, so yes, I agree, I believe everyone is born perfect the way they are, and are here to experience what resonates with truth, if that loving feeling in your heart we call God feels like truth to you, then by golly, your not the problem, everyone else is.

By the way, Sin is a man created term, it was an ancient Babylonian name for the Moon god, Sin.
2016-11-26 12:12:48 UTC
Because the Bible, God's Word, speaks against it as a lifestyle. Same sex attraction is a temptation, but it is not a sin. It may be a genetic thing caused by contaminants in the environment, or possibly alcohol abuse by our ancestors. All people sin - some lie, some steal, etc. We all need to admit that we are sinners and receive by faith God's gift of salvation through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. Trying to justify our sins before a holy God is foolish and useless.
2016-12-09 02:47:11 UTC
'cause it is a choice to act upon it... no sane person considers it a sin to feel a certain type of way... if you feel attraction towards other guys, that is how you feel...



however, if you act upon your feelings and pay or offer $3x to another dude than it may be considered a sin...



i'd you believe in the 📑 than pretty much anything and everything is a sin!
Gary B
2016-11-23 10:02:17 UTC
ALL religions consider it sinful because you are NOT born that way. NO deity of any kind would make a human whose total purpose is to wipe out its species!



Two males (or two females) cannot make a baby, cannot "grow the herd" by themselves. In fact, it has been in only the last 75 years that mankind could make a baby without normal HETEROsexual activity.



IF homosexuality were normal, the human race (ANY species which depends on sexual reproduction) would wipe themselves out in a few hundred years! This is a BIOLOGICAL, scientific problems, and is NOT controlled by religion!



Homosexuality is forbidden by religion -- ALL religions -- simply because to allow it would not allow enough babies to be born to save the species from extinction.
supernovamike11
2016-11-23 10:00:54 UTC
There is no sin in being tempted. There is no sin in "being". Sin can only exist as far as a choice has been made.



To say that it is a sin to simply be gay is silly. We all have temptations. If a person is inherently sinful just for having certain inclinations, then how does that make him/her any different from anyone else? We all have temptations, we all have weaknesses.



In fact, if simply being tempted towards something is sinful in itself, then Christ himself would not be sinless, as He was also tempted.
Tracer
2016-11-23 21:05:46 UTC
Because religion is the supreme choice and denigrating LGBTs is easier than competing with one's natural being. Religious teachings are a learned behavior/learned discrimination. Simple. Sinful. Ha.
Uncle Thesis
2016-11-23 09:54:31 UTC
The jury is still out as respects homosexuality being inherent or a choice.

Religions consider it a sin because God did not create the male reproductive organ to be placed inside the male anus, for the purpose of sexual pleasure. It goes against what was intended.
2016-11-23 17:24:06 UTC
Homosexuality in and of itself is not a sin. If you cannot help that, then of course God undertsands. However, acting on these homosexual urges is a sin. I know, it seems unfair, but honestly life can be unfair. I know that's probably not an answer you would want to hear, but no matter what, you just have to trust that God has a plan for you I guess.
Chas
2016-11-25 12:59:52 UTC
I think it is partly due to a misreading of biblical texts. It is easy to take a phrase or sentence from the bible (Old or New Testament) and not consider the historical situation of the time it was written, the larger context of the verse, the various layers of translations--even mis-translations, and the prejudices/beliefs of those who did the translating. Remember that nothing in the bible was written in English. The New Testament was written in Greek, translated to Latin and, for the English-speaking world, the 'official' version was the King James version. Many ideas or concepts in the original Greek do not translate well into Latin, and then to English. To get a better understanding of how texts dealt with homosexuality (which was not understood in any way like it is today), it is important to take all of this into consideration. And please realize that since many people think the bible was the direct word of God, you will never win an argument with them.
DukeFan69
2016-11-24 07:31:26 UTC
Homosexuality is a choice. A person may be born witha a tendency towards being homosexual (due to our imperfect genes-Romans 5:12), but that doesn't mean they HAVE to be homosexual. It's just like a person who may have a genetic tendency to be an alcoholic because their mother abused alcohol during pregnancy. That doesn't mean the person will automatically be an alcoholic. If a person is living to please almighty God, then they can make the choice to fight anything of which God disapproves. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
Josh
2016-11-25 01:50:57 UTC
Religion is a choice. Being gay is not
?
2016-11-25 23:17:24 UTC
I wish that LGBT would stop being so against religions if they don't want us to be against them. Give us a chance, I don't hate you guys. But yes I do believe that we were meant to be with a man and a woman. I think it is clearly known that the majority of people are as so. But since I disagree with you, you hate us all. We don't hate you, the Bible says to treat everyone with love... I'm not against you being gay, maybe that's not a choice. But what is a choice is acting off of it and going against morals to date another of the same sex. I don't think that it's your fault, and I get it's hard to understand but that is the way religions feel. So just give us a chance if you want us to give you guys yours...
?
2016-11-29 04:23:07 UTC
All religion?

Historically, some cultures and religions accommodated, institutionalized, or revered, same-sex love and sexuality. For example, Hinduism does not view homosexuality as a religious sin.[6] In 2009, the Hindu Council UK released the statement "Hinduism does not condemn homosexuality".
Road Rider
2016-11-24 04:46:16 UTC
I have dealt with "gays" in my business for years . I have listened to their stories of inner office workings. I have had customers who are gay. I'd rather deal with straights. They have a moral compass.

You ,a 17 yr old has a long life ahead of you ( if you dont get AIDS ) . You probably have never slept with a woman.

Before you get too far into the ' culture' of being a homo - give women a chance .
?
2016-11-23 12:51:17 UTC
Religions consider homosexuality a sin because they don't tend to get babies from those unions to swell the ranks of their membership. Look at Catholicism, they think birth control is a sin too for the same reason. Less babies = less followers
Raymond
2016-11-23 09:57:16 UTC
Because religions were invented by those who want to keep control of society, and it is much easier to control those who are used to not have choices.



The funniest part is where those who are most adament about this "sin", claim to be speaking on behalf of a guy who spent his public life living with 12 other guys.



Beware of people who have decided to believe in a religion INSTEAD of believing in God.
2016-11-29 12:56:03 UTC
'cause it is a choice to act upon it... no sane person considers it a sin to feel a certain type of way... if you feel attraction towards other guys, that is how you feel...



however, if you act upon your feelings and pay or offer $3x to another dude than it may be considered a sin...



i'd you believe in the 📑 than pretty much anything and everything is a sin!
2016-11-26 00:36:00 UTC
all religions consider it sinful 'cause you are not born that way... no deity of any kind would make a human whose total purpose is to wipe out its species!



two males (or two females) cannot make a baby, cannot "grow the herd" by themselves... in fact, it has been in only the last 75 years that mankind could make a baby without normal heterosugarual activity...



if homosugaruality were normal, the human race (any species which depends on sugarual reproduction) would wipe themselves out in a few hundred years! this is a biological, scientific problems, and is not controlled by religion!



homosugaruality is forbidden by religion -- all religions -- simply 'cause to allow it would not allow enough babies to be born to save the species from extinction...
Annie
2016-11-24 00:42:48 UTC
I don't know why some churches get so hung up on this issue. Jesus taught us to love everyone. And, regardless, it is NOT for us to judge. There are some progressive churches - even an Episcopalian church in my hometown that is very welcoming to gays. Things are slowly getting better. Some churches are also IMO still way behind on womens' role in churches.
2016-12-16 10:44:24 UTC
i am a "born again" christian, so i shall let you know how most of our type stand on this... we believe that all people are born into sin stemming from original sin... we are all sinners, all with the proclivity and desire to sin, some in other sins but we have this proclivity, a pull, a desire, a tendency, to sin... i believe that a certain percentage of people have the proclivity towards homosugaruality, i also believe the only way out of any sin is too acknowledge it before god and accept jesus christ forgiveness, and let god direct our lives... so i'm not advocating a deliverance out of homosugaruality to heterosugaruality, that's not what i'm advocating... i'm advocating making jesus christ the lord of your life and following after him...



i realize this view is not a "popular" view, but then the jesus i follow never did follow the popular culture of his day either...
2016-12-09 08:57:43 UTC
men loves women, they loves to look at women, to have relations with women... if possible every night with a new one shall be awesome ! isn't it ?



yet, men are ordered to lower their gazes , not to have any romantic \ sugarual relation with women out of marriage and having such relation out of marriage is considered one of the awesomeest sins...



the same is your case, regardless that i'm not sure if this can happen that some one is gay just like that...



it is all about controlling desires and not letting desires to control you... 'cause all men are really fine with looking at women and having relations out of marriage...



is religion against human nature (regardless that "homosugaruality" is not the human nature)\ human desire?

no :) and this is why religion allowed satisfying this sugarual desire through marriage... but the point is that life is a test...
2016-11-25 07:59:52 UTC
I've never heard of any religion that considers being happy to be a sin. You are obviously a troll or a blithering idiot.
?
2016-11-24 22:46:30 UTC
Being a gay is not a sin..yes its not a choice, its the way you born like this and everyone has their own interests and their own life and they can live the way they want.
2016-11-28 18:53:06 UTC
-- then why do all religions consider it as a sin? --

in the HOLY bible, God gave a set of laws for the human race ... thru moses ... written in black n white .

notice law & order in the planetary systems ...

likewise, there MUST be law & order in human society ... w/ever culture.

out of these set of laws, God condensed them to 10 rules .

it is called the Ten Commandments given by God to moses IN PERSON on mt sinai !



Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.



here, God is being SPECIFIC , same gender sex is an __ ? abomination

but YOU think you are v smart ... smarter than God.

you claim -- being gay is not a choice -- .... is that so .

when God states specifically that a certain act / sin is an abomination, this means satan is behind this sin , controlling YOU to be what it wants YOU to be .

YOU make yourself subject to satan . how ?

by claiming that -- gay is not a choice -- , thereby aligning yourself w satan, AGAINST God

so you are WITH satan , it CONTROLS YOUR MIND and you do his bidding ...

this is how it works.



until you subject yourself to God n flow w His Laws, you will be owned by satan ... a choice YOU make.
2016-12-08 08:28:28 UTC
hypothetically speaking; yoiu have a shiny red ferrari and you drive it 8 hours a day through the worst ghetto you can find in the most violent city in the country (example, chicago)... when you finally get car-jacked, was it your decision or was it forced upon you? homosugaruality is the same as being car-jacked... demons are 5,000 year old invisible beings who are stuck here with no way out... they have the power to influence thinking to the point of overriding your shall (car-jacked)... after they have been in control for a while, you start to like the thrills they provide (see patty hurst who fell in love with her kidnappers and even helped them rob a bank)... it was your choice to experiment... that is when you offered your ferrari to the bro and he's been taking you for a ride ever since... soon, your ferrari shall be totaled... my homosugarual uncle died of aids... bro from the 'hood is a terrible driver... then there's the opinion of the guy that gave you the ferrari to begin with... he's not happy with your poor life choices... you were supposed to use it to get to emerald city to visit him, but instead trashed it in the burbs of chicago... now your problem is getting bro to give you back your car, or even mustering the shall power to ditch his thrill-laced lifestyle for your true calling... bro is the biggest, baddest dude in the hood and it will definitely not be easy...
Arjun
2016-11-27 08:26:35 UTC
Because the people made religion consider this as a sin.
2016-11-24 11:30:59 UTC
To start with, that is a lie. It is no more a sin to be gay than it is to be a heterosexual. The sin comes if you misuse your sexuality. Do you think straight folks don't sin when they commit fornication or adultery?
2016-11-29 13:53:30 UTC
numerous of the writings of the major religions were written the better part of 1,500 plus years ago...



a hundred years ago, social attitudes were very different to today... women weren't allowed into universities / colleges (the numbers were miniscule, maybe 5% at proper) as they were thought not to be able to cope... women weren't able to compete at the olympic at anything longer than the 800m (or thereabouts) until the 1972 and the marathon as it was thought they were "too hard for them".........



divorce (in my country) was rare and pretty much unheard of prior to the 1970's... unwed mother's prior to ~1970's were put into homes and their children were forcibly removed / adopted...



slavery in the us was still practised til the mid to late 1800's.........





the religions are written over a thousand years ago......... closer to 1,500 or more for the bible and longer for the old testament.........



there was no awareness of gay / transgender or anything else back then......... left handers were not considered normal (teachers were forcing them to be right handed til the 60's or 70's in my country).........
2016-11-25 14:26:20 UTC
hypothetically speaking; yoiu have a shiny red ferrari and you drive it 8 hours a day through the worst ghetto you can find in the most violent city in the country (example, chicago)... when you finally get car-jacked, was it your decision or was it forced upon you? homosugaruality is the same as being car-jacked... demons are 5,000 year old invisible beings who are stuck here with no way out... they have the power to influence thinking to the point of overriding your shall (car-jacked)... after they have been in control for a while, you start to like the thrills they provide (see patty hurst who fell in love with her kidnappers and even helped them rob a bank)... it was your choice to experiment... that is when you offered your ferrari to the bro and he's been taking you for a ride ever since... soon, your ferrari shall be totaled... my homosugarual uncle died of aids... bro from the 'hood is a terrible driver... then there's the opinion of the guy that gave you the ferrari to begin with... he's not happy with your poor life choices... you were supposed to use it to get to emerald city to visit him, but instead trashed it in the burbs of chicago... now your problem is getting bro to give you back your car, or even mustering the shall power to ditch his thrill-laced lifestyle for your true calling... bro is the biggest, baddest dude in the hood and it will definitely not be easy...
2016-11-25 08:15:29 UTC
hypothetically speaking; yoiu have a shiny red ferrari and you drive it 8 hours a day through the worst ghetto you can find in the most violent city in the country (example, chicago)... when you finally get car-jacked, was it your decision or was it forced upon you? homosugaruality is the same as being car-jacked... demons are 5,000 year old invisible beings who are stuck here with no way out... they have the power to influence thinking to the point of overriding your shall (car-jacked)... after they have been in control for a while, you start to like the thrills they provide (see patty hurst who fell in love with her kidnappers and even helped them rob a bank)... it was your choice to experiment... that is when you offered your ferrari to the bro and he's been taking you for a ride ever since... soon, your ferrari shall be totaled... my homosugarual uncle died of aids... bro from the 'hood is a terrible driver... then there's the opinion of the guy that gave you the ferrari to begin with... he's not happy with your poor life choices... you were supposed to use it to get to emerald city to visit him, but instead trashed it in the burbs of chicago... now your problem is getting bro to give you back your car, or even mustering the shall power to ditch his thrill-laced lifestyle for your true calling... bro is the biggest, baddest dude in the hood and it will definitely not be easy...
Johnny
2016-11-23 09:57:55 UTC
That is very easy: Homosexual relationships don't produce offspring. Less offspring= less followers= less power for the founders and leaders of a religion. Note, religions without written rules and without a particular founder often tolerate homosexuality.
biggalloot2003
2016-11-23 10:00:47 UTC
I personally, never chose to be straight. I just noticed one day while looking at a girl's legs that I had a raging stiffy. If there was a process where I decided that it was the right thing or the logical thing to do, I am unaware of it.



However, jesus famously said "Judge not, lest ye be judged!" which, of course, means that christians must judge. Now, to judge you harshly for something that is not your fault would be wrong, so they pretend it is your fault, so they can do what jesus said.
World
2016-11-25 12:42:16 UTC
There are truly only a few Religions that believe it is wrong to be Gay the Lutheran that have always known is that we allow anyone to be theirselves no matter what. You are loved by all of us. Enjoy life 😀
?
2016-11-24 08:37:10 UTC
I have a friend who's a lesbian and I don't find it to be a sin, but I disagree with homosexuality and usually I don't think about it.
?
2016-11-24 12:30:22 UTC
because in the days it was first called a sin it was not known that it is inborn . they therefore thought that the behaviour could spread . All sins and laws are in place to prevent behaviour harmful to society . A small minority who act in this way are no harm to society because it cannot spread to society as a whole if its genetic and not learned or taught behaviour. just as, for example, painting yourself blue is deviant behaviour but should never be against the law.
Anne Campbell
2016-11-25 06:48:35 UTC
Many religions are too concerned with controlling the sexuality of their followers by introducing the false concept of 'sin'. However, increasingly many churches now accept and welcome gay members into their congregation and encourage openly gay members of the clergy.
2016-11-23 21:01:08 UTC
the True Church Of england do not see being Born Gay as a sin we have Gay priests and female Priests



we Obey the laws of Jesus we love everyone
righteousjohnson
2016-11-23 09:56:30 UTC
It is not a contradiction to them because they contend that you are still responsible for your actions, just not your impulses.

I suspect the definition of "Sin" has changed just a bit from the time these religious texts were written, so there is also some confusion on that too.
PaulCyp
2016-11-23 10:01:32 UTC
Sexual orientation is not a sin, for the very reason you stated. Sexual behavior outside of marriage is a sin, regardless of your orientation. The Church Jesus founded has many homosexual members, doing their best to live according to God's holy will, just like the heterosexual members.
2016-11-23 09:55:15 UTC
You're not gay, you're homosexual. It's very likely you were born a homosexual. However, homosexuality is a behavior; you can choose to act on it or not to act on it. Sex is a very natural and very powerful drive, making it extremely difficult to choose to "not act". Religions, in general, see homosexual behavior as a lack of discipline on your part. Which is easy to say if you were born heterosexual.
?
2016-11-24 07:30:49 UTC
Not all religions... Not Greek mythology.

Maybe God's homophobic.
?
2016-11-27 07:29:18 UTC
We know it's not a choice from science, but science is not religion.
2016-11-23 10:15:54 UTC
Error #1: you're trying to apply logic to the complete irrationality of cult belief.



Error #2: you actually give a siht about why cultists believe their ridiculous cult beliefs in the first place!
?
2016-11-23 09:54:35 UTC
If you were born that way then it would be natural.



You may not be able to control your sexual preferences... but being with another man is a choice.
?
2016-11-23 22:01:15 UTC
We believe that each spermy you waste on someone else which is not a woman is a life which has been wasted. G-d told us not to. He said men should be men and woman should be woman. Jews do not hate gays, it is forbidden to be racist in the religion, but it is what we believe.
tro
2016-11-24 11:24:19 UTC
obviously not all religions do so

but for the most part human beings have an inner knowledge that tells them this is unnatural and having sex with others of the same gender(and this puzzles me how this can be done), or with animals, is unnatural and is an abomination
2016-11-23 09:52:28 UTC
it's a sinful choice
?
2016-11-25 11:09:51 UTC
Whaaat
2016-11-24 12:58:35 UTC
Being gay means you like genitalia
?
2016-11-23 17:01:34 UTC
Because 98% of the population is straight and many of them want to exterminate gays so they invented religions to try to turn them straight.
Jen
2016-11-24 15:00:38 UTC
I believe it dates back to Sodom and Gomorrah. It might actually be a question of X-Y chromosome issues or sociological factors and such the like, but it is a condemnation from the Bible.
NiJo
2016-11-24 02:09:29 UTC
Str8 sodomy, str8 oral sex all used to be considered sins. Churches have a sex hangup. Why? My guess is when your product is guilt, it's a great place to start.
Connor
2016-11-24 13:13:07 UTC
I don't care how religious you are, some Christians are jerks, they think they are often racist and homophobic. I have religous people in my family who are "Christian" but oh they're so against whites dating blacks, and think gays are horrible. It makes me cringe to think they're "Christian". If you were Christian you'd be fine with cross-race dating/marriage. That's my problem with Christians. I still love my family but it angers me so much.
?
2016-11-25 06:02:42 UTC
actually not all religons dont. such as dharmatic religions its people who misrepresent it. in abrahamic its not the sin of lot isnt being gay. its not giving a damn about people and rape
?
2016-11-23 15:50:01 UTC
Sex is a choice.The act of sex is a choice.Liking or loving another person is a choice.I choose no one.Because life has taught me.That all people are a s s holes.
2016-11-23 14:28:01 UTC
I do think it's a choice.
Mr.Longrove
2016-11-24 06:21:42 UTC
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Genesis 1:27-28



And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.



And Adam said:





“This is now bone of my bones

And flesh of my flesh;

She shall be called Woman,

Because she was taken out of Man.”



Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

Genesis 2:21-24



You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. - Leviticus 18:22



But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Words of Jesus Christ, the Son of God in Gospel According to Mark 10:6-9.



For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is AGAINST NATURE. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is SHAMEFUL, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Romans 1:26-27



Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1st Corinthians 6:9-11



Why would God make male and female if He wanted men to mate with other men and women to mate with other women??? He's already said that sex is between a man and woman as husband and wife. Period.

I suggest you watch this video and listen closely - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVqkIst2u4&t=21s
2016-11-23 09:51:31 UTC
Because it's unnatural



If it were natural two homosexuals would be able to produce children together
jodie
2016-11-24 09:42:28 UTC
theres nothing wrong with being gay. the bible also says not to judge but the religious people choose to ignore that part
Jacob
2016-11-26 08:10:28 UTC
Because they believe it is a choice.
2016-11-24 07:40:10 UTC
I think the Bible says that a man should not lay with a man whats that tell ya
Freethinking Liberal
2016-11-23 09:55:43 UTC
Christians and other religious superstitions are just utterly obsessed with other peoples bedrooms
T'rone
2016-11-23 14:53:38 UTC
Not all religions and all religions were created by man anyway.
?
2016-11-23 09:55:57 UTC
being gay is a choice.... "men, who suppress the truth" = choice.



Romans 1:18-22



18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
Girl Puncher
2016-11-26 11:02:12 UTC
It is about control. The major abrahamic religions are obsessed with controlling your sex lives.
Jose
2016-11-24 20:31:59 UTC
Now coming out of the closet is heroic to society, just stay the fu#*away from me And i wont bother you
Marie
2016-11-24 00:49:43 UTC
People who don't understand it or may actually have tendencies themselves are scared.
2016-11-24 05:22:26 UTC
You don't have to act on your wrong desires.
2016-11-24 11:03:13 UTC
its about procreation. homosexuality doesn't bring a child into the world.
2016-11-25 16:35:32 UTC
People descriminate homosexuals.
2016-11-23 20:07:46 UTC
JetDoc is the foremost gay authority.
❀✿☺Flowerchild☺✿❀
2016-11-23 11:36:20 UTC
because like murder, it leads to more troubles in people's lives, and in societies.
2016-11-23 09:51:11 UTC
They just need a scapegoat. In the end Christians will face the slaughter.
ANONYMOUSLY
2016-11-23 11:53:56 UTC
HAVING HOMOSEXUAL TENDENCIES, TEMPTATION, AND THOUGHTS IS NOT A SIN, BUT TO PURPOSELY NOT LET GO OF THE LUSTFUL ACTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, YOU ARE THEN COMMITTING A MORTAL SIN WHICH IS A COMPLETE REJECTION OFGOD. SOME KID THEMSELVES INTO BELIEVING THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY. WELL THEN SO ARE ADULTERERS, FORNICATORS, MURDERERS AND BANK ROBBERS. THEN THERE WOULD BE NO SINS TO ACCOUNT FOR WHEN WE DIE, WHICH COULD BE SUDDENLY AND WITHOUT WARNING. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL TO REJECT HIM(MORTAL SINS) OR ACCEPT HIM.



THOSE WHO WANT TO KEEP ON COMMITTING MORTAL SINS, USE THEIR FEELINGS AND OPINIONS TO GUIDE THEM, AND THEY THINK IT IS IN THE NAME OF LOVE, BUT LOVING GOD COMES FIRST IF THEY DONT USE THE GOSPEL AND LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS TELLS THEM ABOUT SINS. YOU ARE THEN WORSHIPPING YOURSELF AND NOT GOD. THERE FOR YOU ARE USING YOUR FREE WILL TO REJECT GOD.

YOU CANNOT TAKE THE GOSPEL AND MANIPULATE IT TO FIT YOUR SINFUL LIFE STYLE, JESUS SAID YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS, ITS EITHER ME OR SINS, YOU CANNOT LOVE BOTH!



PLEASE BELIEVE THIS, HOMOSEXUALITY AS WELL AS ALL SINS OF IMPURITY ARE AN ABOMINATION TO THE LORD OUR GOD. NOTHING IMPURE WILL EVER ENTER HEAVEN. THE ONLY WAY TO BECOME PURE AGAIN, IS TO SEEK FORGIVENESS FROM JESUS FROM THE CROSS, IF SINCERE AND HUMBLE OF HEART AND A PROMISE TO DO YOUR BEST NOT TO OFFEND JESUS(GOD) AGAIN, YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN. GOD KNOWS IF YOU ARE TRYING OR NOT AND SO DO YOU. THE ONES THAT SAY IT IS NOT A CHOICE ARE THE ONES THAT DONT WANT TO STOP DOING IT.



BUT LET ME SAY ONE MORE THING HERE>>>>>>>>>>>



LET ME TELL YOU THEY ARE PRECIOUS TO THE LORD OUR GOD AS ALL OF US ARE. NOW IF YOU HAVE IMPURE THOUGHTS OR TEMPTATIONS IT IS NOT A SIN. ITS ACTING ON THEM THAT IS THE SIN. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF ITS OF A MAN OR A WOMEN. ALL LUST IS IMPURE AND GOD HATES THE SIN BUT TRULY LOVES YOU. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO BE GOOD, YOU ARE DELIGHTING GOD VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO RESIST BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING JESUS(GOD) WILL HELP YOU BACK AND STRENGTHEN YOU BEHIND BELIEF. THIS IS DONE BY RECEIVING HIS BODY AND BLOOD, SOUL AND DIVINITY AT HOLY COMMUNION, AND PRAYING IN SECRET TO HIM, HE SEES YOU IN SECRET AND WILL REWARD YOU AT THE PROPER TIME.

YOU ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE YOU ARE RESISTING DOING EVIL JUST FOR GOD. IF YOU DID NOT HAVE THE TEMPTATIONS THERE WOULD BE NO GREAT STRUGGLE. LET ME TELL YOU HOMOSEXUALS DO NOT GO TO HELL FOR HOMOSEXUAL THOUGHTS JUST LIKE ADULTERERS DONT. IT IS THE FALLING INTO THE LUSTFUL SINS AND NOT ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS BEFORE YOU DIE THAT PUT A PERSON INTO HELL NOT THE TEMPTATIONS. REMEMBER JESUS WHEN CARRYING HIS CROSS FELL THREE TIMES BUT GOT RIGHT BACK UP IN TERRIFIC PAIN AND MOVED FORWARD JUST FOR LOVE OF US AND HE IS LEAVING US AN EXAMPLE THAT WHEN WE FALL GET RIGHT BACK UP JUST FOR LOVE OF HIM AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS WITH A SINCERE HEART AND YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN EACH AND EVERY TIME. DONT YOU THINK OR LET ANYONE TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE SINCERE AT REPENTANCE, THE LORD KNOWS AND YOU KNOW IF YOU ARE TRYING OR NOT. IF YOU ARE TRYING THATS ALL GOD ASKS OF YOU, HE WILL WATCH OVER YOU IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY AND IN TIME (ITS NOT DONE OVER NIGHT) YOU WILL BE CURED OF ALL YOUR SEXUAL DESIRES IN HIS NAME. DID YOU KNOW THAT ST AUGUSTINE WAS A SEX ADDICT AND HE TURNED TO GOD FOR STRENGTH AND IS NOW A SAINT. YOU SEE HOW TEMPTATIONS GOT HIM TO BE A SAINT, GOD WATCHED HIM CLOSELY AND KEPT HIM SAFE, BECAUSE GOD KNEW HE WAS TRYING, JUST LIKE HE IS WATCHING OVER YOU.
xuxu
2016-11-23 09:59:19 UTC
I EMPHASIZE YOU SHOULD LEAVE THIS HABIT AS THIS WILL LEAD YOU TO HELL. WHY DON'T YOU REPENT LIKE MANY CHRISTIANS DO?
?
2016-11-25 10:00:41 UTC
Because religion is stupid
2016-11-23 09:52:24 UTC
IT IS STILL A WRONG CHOICE.....GOD SAID ITS WRONG...HE WANTS US TO REPRODUCE...OPPOSITE SEX MARRIAGES ARE THE ONLY VALID KIND IN HIS BOOK....
?
2016-11-23 10:00:52 UTC
oh my, you were born with this? what a nonsense

tell us what did your parent´s say when you were born ?
Iamtryingtobuyahouse
2016-11-23 18:49:01 UTC
its a mental illness.
?
2016-11-26 15:31:45 UTC
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