You cannot always know who is going to snap. The sad fact is there may always be a man with the gun. If I could run the world there would be no guns. They would slowly disappear or wear out or be confiscated or whatnot and in time we would all be a lot better off. Let the `hunters' learn to use bows and arrows or whatever. I don’t make the rules though. As the Bill of Rights currently allows people to own guns, then the problem is how to intelligently control them. The Gun Control Laws we currently have are clearly not working. I chose to not have a gun, however I want there to be some better controls on who has them. It is too easy to get one.
I can choose to drive a car. The government then gives me a number of hoops to jump through to get the car. I have to have a license, which requires a test. I have to have taken classes and shown an instructor I have the skills necessary for getting behind the wheel before they give me the license. I have to have insurance for the car. I cannot go to a car dealer, swear on some form I am competent to drive, wait
while they run a check to see if I have driven over someone and drive out with my car.
Currently to legally own a gun in Illinois, I would first need a
Firearm Owner Identification Card. This requires a criminal
background check as well as answering questions such as: Have I been in a mental institution, am I addicted to narcotics and am I mentally retarded. The really hard to pass question is "have you in the last 5 years been convicted of battery, assault, aggravated assault, violation of an order of protection, or a substantially similar offence in which a firearm was used or possessed? " The law does not
forbid me a FOID, had the above crimes been done without a gun. NICE! The dealer then does the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and 72 hours later I have a gun. No training, no skills required, no check for Prozac, nada. In Illinois there is no state requirement that handgun buyers receive any safety training at all. No quirement that handgun buyers demonstrate any familiarity
with gun laws or knowledge about safe handling/safe storage of handguns.
Anyone who has bypass surgery or cancer is entered in the Insurance Industry's Nation Wide data base….try and get insurance after that HA! Nobody is all over it saying we are violating their right to privacy. The NRA sues the federal government for trying to collect information on who is buying firearms! Illinois state law forbids police from keeping any permanent record of gun sales - all gun sale records must be destroyed within three months. Police are prohibited
from maintaining gun sale records that could be used for gun tracing and criminal investigations. WTF? The Patriot Act allows the government to look into my email and see what I'm purchasing on Amazon.com if they like but my police force can't keep records of who bought a freaking gun???
The NRf*ngckingA should be the biggest advocate for gun controls. They should be part of the solution. Our current gun laws clearly do not work.
Time for bed, this is emotionally draining.
Nicky
Here is what we have to date if you are interested:
1791
The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment -- "A well
regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed." gains final ratification.
1871
The National Rifle Association (NRA) is organized around its primary
goal of improving American civilians' marksmanship in preparation for
war.
1927
Congress passes a law banning the mailing of concealable weapons.
1934
The National Firearms Act of 1934 regulating only fully automatic
firearms like sub-machine guns is approved by Congress.
1938
The Federal Firearms Act of 1938 places the first limitations on
selling ordinary firearms. Persons selling guns are required to
obtain a Federal Firearms License, at an annual cost of $1, and to
maintain records of the name and address of persons to whom firearms
are sold. Gun sales to persons convicted of violent felonies were
prohibited.
1968
The Gun Control Act of 1968 - "...was enacted for the purpose of
keeping firearms out of the hands of those not legally entitled to
possess them because of age, criminal background, or incompetence." --
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms the Act regulates imported
guns, expands the gun-dealer licensing and record keeping
requirements, and places specific limitations on the sale of
handguns. The list of persons banned from buying guns is expanded to
include persons convicted of any non-business related felony, persons
found to be mentally incompetent, and users of illegal drugs.
1972
The Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms is created listing as part
of its mission the control of illegal use and sale of firearms and
the enforcement of Federal firearms laws. ATF issues firearms
licenses and conducts firearms licensee qualification and compliance
inspections.
1986
The Armed Career Criminal Act (Public Law 99-570) increases penalties
for possession of firearms by persons not qualified to own them under
the Gun Control Act of 1986.
The Firearms Owners Protection Act (Public Law 99-308) relaxes some
restrictions on gun and ammunition sales and establishes mandatory
penalties for use of firearms during the commission of a crime.
The Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act (Public Law 99-408) bans
possession of "cop killer" bullets capable of penetrating bulletproof
clothing.
1989
California bans the possession of semiautomatic assault weapons
following the massacre of five children on a Stockton, CA school
playground.
1990
The Crime Control Act of 1990 (Public Law 101-647) bans manufacturing
and importing semiautomatic assault weapons in the U.S. "Gun-free
school zones" are established carrying specific penalties for
violations.
1994
The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (Public Law 103-159)
imposes a five-day waiting period on the purchase of a handgun and
requires that local law enforcement agencies conduct background
checks on purchasers of handguns.
The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (Public Law
103-322) bans all sale, manufacture, importation, or possession of a
number of specific types of assault weapons.
1997
The Supreme Court, in the case of Printz v. United States, declares
the background check requirement of the Brady Handgun Violence
Prevention Act unconstitutional.
1998 - June
A Justice Department report indicates the blocking of some 69,000
handgun sales during 1977 while Brady Bill pre-sale background checks
were required.
1998 - July
An amendment requiring a trigger lock mechanism to be included with
every handgun sold in the U.S. is defeated in the Senate.
But, the Senate approves an amendment requiring gun dealers to have
trigger locks available for sale and creating federal grants for gun
safety and education programs.
1998 - November 30
Permanent provisions of the Brady Act go into effect. Gun dealers are
now required to initiate a pre-sale criminal background check of all
gun buyers through the newly created National Instant Criminal
Background Check (NICS) computer system.
The waiting period provision of the Act expired in 1998 when the NICS
came online. NICS is managed by the FBI. The system runs database
checks on criminal records. State alternatives to the background
check, such as state issued handgun permits or mandatory state or
local checks, may still bypass the NICS check.
1998 - December 1
The NRA files suit in federal court attempting to block the FBI's
collection of information on firearm buyers.
1999 - May 20
By a 51-50 vote, with the tie-breaker vote cast by Vice President
Gore, the Senate passes a bill requiring trigger locks on all newly
manufactured handguns and extending waiting period and background
check requirements to sales of firearms at gun shows.
1999 - August 24
The Los Angeles County, CA Board of Supervisors votes 3 - 2 to ban
the Great Western Gun Show, billed as the "world's largest gun
show" from the Pomona, CA fairgrounds where the show had been held
for the last 30 years.
Acquiring From Dealers
Provided that federal law and the laws of both the dealer's and
purchaser's states and localities are complied with:
An individual 21 years of age or older may acquire a handgun from a
dealer federally licensed to sell firearms in the individual's state
of residence
An individual 18 years of age or older may purchase a rifle or
shotgun from a federally licensed dealer in any state
Sale of a firearm by a federally licensed dealer must be documented
by a federal form 4473, which identifies and includes other
information about the purchaser, and records the make, model, and
serial number of the firearm. Sales to an individual of multiple
handguns within a five-day period require dealer notification to the
Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Violations of dealer
record keeping requirements are punishable by a penalty of up to
$1000 and one year's imprisonment.
A Firearms License (also known as a Gun License) is a license or
permit issued by some Governments (typically by the police) of a
country (or state or municipality thereof), that allows the licensee
to buy, own, possess, and use firearms, often subject to a number of
conditions or restrictions, especially with regards to storage
requirements or the completion of a firearms safety course, as well
as background checks, etc. Firearms licenses are not required in all
jurisdictions.
The permit or license scope varies in what firearm(s) and or activity
(s) they allow the holder to legally do with their firearms. For
example, a license may allow the holder to engage in hunting, target
shooting, and/or collecting, or permit the owner to own firearms for
self defense, carry a concealed firearm, or operate a business (such
as being a gun dealer or a gunsmith). Rifles, Shotguns, and Handguns
may require separate licenses (depending on jurisdiction).
A Firearms Transaction Record, or Federal Form 4473, is a United
States government form that must be filled out when a person buys a
firearm from a Federal Firearm License holder or gun shop.
The Form 4473 contains the name, address, driver's license or
identification number, National Instant Criminal Background Check
System (NICS) background check transaction number, serial number and
model of the firearm, and a short federal affidavit stating that the
purchaser is eligible to purchase firearms under federal law. Lying
on this form is a felony and can be punished by up to five years in
prison in addition to fines, even if the transaction is simply denied
by the NICS.
The dealer must keep the Form 4473 for twenty years and all records
are subject to inspection by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms
and Explosives. The dealer also records all information from the form
4473 into his bound-book. A dealer must keep this log the entire time
he is in business and is required to surrender the log to the ATF
upon retirement from the firearms business. The ATF is allowed to
request a copy of the 4473 from the dealer during the course of a
criminal investigation.
In addition, the sale of two or more handguns to a person in a five
day period must be reported to ATF on Form 3310.4.
These forms are given the same status as a tax return under the
Privacy Act of 1974 and cannot be disclosed to private parties or
government officials without a proper warrant.
Form 4473 is here