Question:
Who here believes in abortion? Support it? Don't support it? Give reasons why?
?
2011-12-07 18:29:48 UTC
With me I think its just another option. Both sides can give good arguments for abortion. Like rape victims and how taking a life is bad and also the things the doctors have to do like taking the fetus out of the mom. Which it goes both ways. The doctors get paid good and they are experienced at what they do. Also doctors have good chances at getting far in life, so if they quit then they can do something else while another doctor replaces them. Also some people can't take care of kids, or can't afford to have one at the time. Adoption isn't the answer to everything. We can't just store 10,000 baby's in one building just letting people adopt them. Mainly cause not all of them are going to be adopted. I like to read other peoples opinions, so please comment away tell me why you want abortion and why you do not want abortion. Give details please.
Eleven answers:
?
2011-12-11 14:01:11 UTC
Its something that we have....Its something that we can do......Why not do it? Its an option so lets use it.
Chuckles
2011-12-07 18:51:57 UTC
I am Pro Choice, but i do not support abortion - i support the woman's choice in the matter.

I am personally not for abortion, but this does not mean i should be against others having the choice.



I believe there is a need for medical abortions, under certain circumstances. By making abortion illegal, those who medically required an abortion do not have access to what is needed, and those who use abortions inappropriately will just find back street alleys and have one anyone. By making abortion illegal, there will be increase infections, infections, emergencies of abortions gone wrong etc.



I do not support abortion for use as birth control or i didn't know i would get pregnant or i can't afford a baby etc, adoption is always available - but in the end it is their choice to opt for an abortion.



But i am pro choice and do not want abortions illegal for these reasons:



*rape victims - some are not psychologically or physically strong enough to cope with a pregnancy and to them adopt - nor should they have to



* medical problems - the mother may have life threatening problems with major organs that cannot handle a pregnancy and will die - the baby will die also. Or the mother needs treatment to save her life eg cancer - the treatment will kill the baby or make it deformed/suffer til death, a cancerous body may not be able to sustain a pregnancy etc etc - abortion should be an option.



* many defects/diseases/conditions in a baby are fatal - the baby will die prior to birth or shortly after birth. A mother should not have to go through this - wait for her baby to die. Some people are strong enough to do this, others are not, they should not be forced to wait for their baby to die. Some conditions are painful to the baby, bones break prior to death - pain should not be allowed for an unborn baby when pain relief til death cannot be given.



By making abortion illegal, it takes away access to those who medically require it and that is not fair. A life should not be lost or not saved due to a pregnancy, especially in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.



Instead of looking at making abortions illegal, maybe look at making the laws/regulations of abortion tougher and more strict so abortions are used appropriately.



But when it comes down to it, it's a persons choice. Just because i would never get an abortion does not mean i should push my view onto a person who would get an abortion.
2011-12-09 21:55:38 UTC
Yeah,

I live in the real world--Saginaw, MI.

Over here, we need MORE abortions. A lot more. And the decision for who gets an abortion needs to be taken out of the hands of unwed teenage wannabe welfare moms. As much as I hate gov-mint bureaucrats, ANY gov't pencil-pusher could make a better decision than any teenage girl on matters such as these:

"Oh, you're applying for a permit to have a baby? Let's see. You're in the 10th grade. You work at Wendy's, part time. You're not sure who the dad is, but you know he's unemployed. You have no car, no savings account, and you're wearing filthy, faded terrycloth shorts that say 'J U I C Y' across the back. And you want to have a baby? Know what? You can't even have a puppy. Report to the Abortion Clinic by 5pm, and don't re-apply for a parenthood license for another 5 years."

Meanwhile, better vote to keep funding the Sherriff's jail. We're gonna need plenty more bunks to house all the kids that should have been aborted, but weren't.

ABORTIONS prevent CRIME!

The facts are the facts. And it's not rocket science:

When abortion rates go UP, crime rates go DOWN.

When abortion rates go DOWN, crime rates go UP.

(after an approximate 2 decade lag time, to adjust for the period of time it takes for unwanted children to mature into criminals.)

Once you get past the "abortion is murder" rhetoric, and realize that these unwanted potential babies are the same unwanted potential babies that could have been prevented by birth control, abstinence, or sodomy, the math becomes easy: MORE ABORTIONS!

It's time to quit being polite to those people who want to impose unwanted children on society, and then send the bill to the already overtaxed taxpayer--like me.
Daver
2011-12-08 14:07:33 UTC
ABORTION

In Catholic morality, abortion is either direct (induced) or indirect. Direct abortion is any destruction of the product of human conception, whether before or after implantation in the womb. A direct abortion is one that is intended either as an end in itself or as a means to an end. As a willful attack on unborn human life, no matter what the motive, direct abortion is always a grave objective evil.



Indirect abortion is the foreseen but merely permitted evacuation of a fetus which cannot survive outside the womb. The evacuation is not the intended or directly willed result, but the side effect, of some legitimate procedure. As such it is morally allowable.



The essential sinfulness of direct abortion consists in the homicidal intent to kill innocent life. This factor places the controverted question as to precisely when human life begins, outside the ambit of the moral issue; as it also makes the now commonly held Catholic position that human life begins at conception equally outside the heart of the church's teaching about the grave sinfulness of direct abortion.



Abortion has been condemned by the Church since apostolic times. The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles, composed before A.D. 100, told the faithful "You shall not procure abortion. You shall not destroy a newborn child" (II, 2). Direct abortion and infanticide were from the beginning placed on the same level of malice.



Hundreds of ecclesiastical documents from the first century through to the present testify to the same moral doctrine, with such nuances as time, place, and circumstances indicated. The Second Vatican Council declared: "Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception," so that "abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes" (Constitution on the Church in the Modern World, IV, 51). Pope Paul VI confirmed this teaching in 1974. "Respect for human life,' he wrote, "is called for from the time that the process of generation begins. From the time that the ovum is fertilized, a life is begun which is neither that of the father nor of the mother. It is rather the life of a new human being with its own growth. It would never be made human if it were not human already." Consequently, "divine law and natural reason exclude all right to the direct killing of an innocent human being"
2011-12-07 18:40:17 UTC
In all honesty, I believe that if the mother could take the time and put together the money to have an abortion, she is capable of finding a good home or agency for her unwanted child, as opposed to just getting rid of it. A lot of women just have abortions, because they don't wish to take responsibility for their actions. I think abortions are appropriate when the mother's life is at stake. After all, you couldn't call yourself "pro-life" if you'd allow a mother to die for the sake of an unborn child. I'm sort of on the fence with this, but I hate seeing irresponsibility.
?
2011-12-08 03:51:27 UTC
I think it it can be the right thing to do if giving birth will kill the Mother, or the baby has a bad illness which would be very painful. A rape victim could be even more traumatized by giving birth, and I think even though it may seem cruel, sometimes abortion is the right thing to do.
Tearjerker
2011-12-07 18:33:19 UTC
I'm not against it. It's a woman's personal choice. I just think it's best she does it before a certain number of weeks. I've always felt this way and I still do. But, recently I was thrown for a loop. I found out that my mom had an abortion before she had me. That was a little disturbing to think that I could have been next--- and that I might have had an older bro or sis. But, I'm sure she did what was best for her at the time.
energeez
2011-12-07 18:34:27 UTC
i believe nobody has the right to tell what a woman can do with her body. I also believe an aborted fetus is not a child. If there weren't abortion rights the number of starving children (20 million in U.S.), would double in my opinion.
?
2016-11-10 14:26:23 UTC
It isn't elementary, no longer by employing any stretch of the mind's eye. some present day cons seem infantile at the same time as they're requested about the topics with Obama. the full professionalism of the party comes into question because some individuals are being idiots. the in basic words way i can imagine for them to win elections is to distance themselves from particular party individuals and concentrate on topics of what they're going to do, really than specializing in "How Obama has ruined us" it style of appears like they're transfixed on "what's incorrect" really of "the thanks to fix it" and that is how its coming for the time of to electorate.
Gwennie B
2011-12-07 18:39:56 UTC
I'm pro-choice, because:



1) A woman's body is her own. Nobody, no government, no court, can force a woman to gestate a pregnancy to viability if she does not also agree to do so. It is unfortunate that human reproduction happens inside women, but because that is the truth, anything less than a pro-choice stance means invading her personal privacy, bodily autonomy, and forcing her to risk her emotional and psychological well-being, her physical health, both during pregnancy and post-birth (in some cases, even her lifelong health), and possibly even her life.



2) Neither pregnancy nor a child should be a punishment. Sex is a good thing, and nobody should be punished for having it. Mistakes happen- let he who is without a mistake step forward and cast the first stone!- and we should not criminalize them. I firmly believe that forced pregnancy of unwanted children can lead to parental resentment (which may take the form of abuse and poorer care) and floods our adoption and foster care systems even fuller than they already are. As the pro-choice slogan goes: "Every Mother A Willing Mother, Every Child A Wanted Child", and I truly believe that reaching this goal is good for women, good for men, good for children, good for society, and the compassionate choice.



3) Criminalizing abortion (which is typically what the pro-life movement advocates) does not reduce rates of abortion. Study after study confirms that the abortion rate stays fairly static whether or not abortion is legal, and in fact, the countries with the lowest rates of abortion are those where it is legal.



4) Criminalizing abortion raises infant and maternal mortality rates. Without access to safe, legal abortion, women die, either in attempts to self-induce abortion, or at the hands of unscrupulous or untrained abortionists. Similarly, attempts to curb access to abortion have been shown to have negative consequences; for example, mandatory waiting periods lead to an increase in more second-term abortions (which are more risky and expensive) rather than to decrease abortion.



5) The logical conclusions of criminalizing abortion is absurd. If a fertilized egg that has yet to implant is considered to legally be a person, then every miscarriage will need to be investigated to ensure no foul play. How will we know if a woman who fell down the stairs truly had an accident, or if she was attempting to induce a miscarriage? Women who commit suicide when pregnant may face criminal charges instead of the mental healthcare they require. Who determines whether or not a high-risk pregnancy is worth aborting, if there's a 50/50 chance both mother and child will survive- even if the mother doesn't want to risk her life? One need only look to Romania under the rule of Nicolae Ceauşescu, where a total abortion ban (and ban on contraception) lead to "a kind of pronatalist police state, where women were subject to random gynecological exams and all miscarriages were investigated" (Michelle Goldman in "The Means of Reproduction", pg. 80).



6) Societies thrive when women control their reproduction (particularly when combined with gender equality- something that *can* be present in pro-life circles, but overall is much more closely aligned with the pro-choice side). Not only does being able to have the number of children you want, when you want and are ready for them, reduce poverty (as Hitchens so beautifully says: "The cure for poverty has a name. It's called the empowerment of women. If you give women some control over the rate at which they reproduce, take them off the animal cycle of reproduction to which nature and some religious doctrine condemns them, and then if you throw in a handful of seeds, the floor of everything, in that village, not just poverty, but health and education, will increase."), but we have also observed that countries that have higher infant and maternal mortality rates are those which are more politically unstable as well. Some have even gone so far as to link abortion access to crime reduction. Happy, healthy, wealthy, peaceful societies are those where the citizens are well-educated about a vast array of reproductive choices and have access to an arsenal of tools- abortion included- to help them ensure whatever choice they make.



7) Pro-life policies create more unplanned pregnancy. While there are undoubtedly some great pro-lifers who embrace comprehensive sex education, widespread use of contraception, universal healthcare, and welfare and aid policies, they're definitely in the minority. All the major pro-lfie organizations eschew policies that have been proven to reduced unplanned pregnancy (and hence the need for abortion). Pro-choice-affiliated policies seek to reduce the need for abortion in the first place, and have been proven to be effective in doing so.
Wind On The Water
2011-12-07 18:49:23 UTC
I'm for a woman to choose for herself - without republicans trying to force her to have a child so they feel better about everything.


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