i know where i live it,s 8,00 a pack.when it got to 4 i ordered,til they TRIED to get taxes,..but rolling them it.s still too much,they sell a special roller,papers and filters, around 3.50 to 4.00 a pack, but it,s a pain in the as. i switched to vaquero little cigars until the co, put sugar on the tips,there,s cheyenne santa fe,,2,25.a pack.. now i smoke J W 100.s..1.75 a pack very close to cigarette taste and i,ve smoked 40 years,they,re made by continental tobacco co. if you can,t get e-mail and order.the good thing is cigars can NEVER be taxed like cigarettes.i figured i.ll save money and stick it up their,,,nose,,can,t report you p ....ies..