Question:
Polish people in Britain?
Desperate Housewife
2007-10-05 14:32:26 UTC
There iare loads of Polish people in my city, some people are complaing about that but I can't see why it should be a problem?

None of the Polish people that I know are on benefits, they're all working for a living and paying their taxes just like anyone else, plus there is plenty of work available so it's not like they are 'taking our jobs' or anything.

What are your opinions on why some people are against immigration in this situation?

thank you
Thirteen answers:
2007-10-05 15:27:57 UTC
There are many legal, hard working immigrants in this country, they are not the problem.It's the ones who cross several 'safe' countries to get to Britain because they know :-

1) They will not be kicked out immediately, will be allowed to stay until their case is heard and will disappear.

2)They will be given accommodation, food and handouts.

It's these scroungers (there are thousands coming in each month) who make people angry and it's the hardworking immigrants that are tarred (unfairly) with the same brush.

If the government listened less to the EU and had a strong immigration policy, the hardworking Poles etc would be made much more welcome by more people.

BLAME THE GOVERNMENT AND THE EU.
2007-10-07 01:43:09 UTC
Whilst all the Polish people that I have met have had work ethics second to none and have always been courteous, I do have reservations about immigration on the current scales. (I think prior to the 1990s there was not a problem and immigration was manageable)



Lots of people have said that the Polish are doing the jobs that Brits dont want to do, however this probably wont last for long, I would say that in a few years, if not now they will be moving up the career ladder and putting British young people out of jobs.



I think recent mass immigration has also pushed up house prices (whether buying or renting due to demand being high) however I'm no economist and I guess that most immigrants dont buy, but it all has a bearing on the situation. In addition immigration is meant to solve the impending pensions crisis. How will it do that if lots of immigrants decide to stay and claim a pension (By the way I am not necessarily talking about the Poles when I say that)? We will then be in a situation where we will have to get more young migrants to pay for the pension gap, or we will have to work till we drop dead. I think it is a false economy and the British govt has made a foolish mistake allowing immigration on this scale. People in Britain are not that rich its all built on shaky ground. I think that Britain has a population which is as densley populated (or nearly) as China and India, and we have no or barely any oil left, not enough room to grow enough food to feed the population (should it be required) and we are a trillion £s in debt.



Another point is that migration sometimes acts as a 'brain drain' on the country of origin. If the British govenment wants to help, then we should invest in these countries and help them there, not everyone can live in Britain.



One more point. In Britain there are many elderly people living in poverty. I was horrified to hear about the amount of old people that die each year in the UK due to the cold and not being able to afford to have the heating on /or even have central heating. We need to get our priorities right as a nation and look after our own first. I am not saying that we should not help people from other countries, but our elderly people deserve some recompense for their efforts, after all this country is built on their efforts.
2016-05-17 09:54:53 UTC
I personally don't have much of a problem with Polish people coming to the UK to work. The trouble is there seems to be so many of them. I think they should learn to speak English as best they can, and most of them do try to be honest. Having advertising exclusively in Polish is just a sign that things are changing... and people don't like change. But you can't blame the advertisers. If they are targeting a specific audience then they will do that. Although it would be nice to see some adverts with a mixture of the two languages. The guy who answered first may have 5 thumbs down, and counting, but he does have a point. Why do we have to be so stuck up that we can't accept foreign people into our country, and when they do come we demand them to learn our language... The Americans are having the exact same debate about the Hispanic invasion, but it's true that some of them (a minority I admit) are embracing the changes and using it as an excuse to learn Spanish. I must admit I've never thought about the prospect of learning Polish before, but something tells me it might become a handy skill to have in a few years time. The fact is, these guys are coming here and doing the jobs we won't do becasue we're too lazy... I hate these pikey's on the telly who stand there and say "Deyz're cummin over 'ere an nickin' all r jobz innit bruv" but if you asked that guy wether he has actually gone out and applied for a plumbing job or even picked up a hammer in his life he'll say "aaahh nahh my only job is getting up early once a week to stand in the dole queue"... So some of us should be thankful for the presence of our European friends. My only concern is not for the state of Britain, but of Poland. In coming here to work in droves, they are leaving behind work in Poland that needs doing and they are running out of people to do it.
Forgetmenotshell
2007-10-05 14:55:15 UTC
People all have varied views on any subject.

And sometimes when something goes wrong-people like someone to blame. If they can't find a job-well of course they should blame people who have got one. And they can't blame their competitors,because that would make them seem not good enough for the job. So by blaming immigrants to the country it gives them someone to target their moaning about.

I think this happens in a lot of countries where people blame immigrants for taking their jobs,houses,resources or all kinds.

Maybe I am only guessing,and maybe I am arrogant for not looking into this enough. But even whether there is enough work or not, everyone has a different opinion on whether there is. If someone chooses to be fussy over what job they will do,and an overseas person will come and do it-what is the problem!! Many people say they want work,yet they are very particular what they will do!! Do they want work or not?? Or do they just want someone to blame??

I think as long as immigrants are behaving them selves and not harming anyone-what is the problem?? If they are bad for any country then they should be sent out. Many people born and bred in any country are worse than the immigrants. Are they taking up jail space and money to keep them ,then why not leave them to live in peace. Some countries have a lot of residents who they should send packing?? But of course they can't send them away.
Rotifer
2007-10-05 14:50:57 UTC
You can't really blame people for being economic migrants, they have the right to travel here and work here just as the rest of the EU do. I hear that working Polish people are being forced to leave Poland because their socialist government spends so much on old people that it is too expensive for the young to actually live and have children.

On the other hand if you just let everybody in that wants to come then undoubtedly you will have a large strain on public services, especially Police, schools, translators etc. British businesses keep moaning about a skills shortage, but I can't help feeling if they were willing to train people themselves instead of expecting them to pop out of education already trained then they wouldn't have to rely on foreign skilled workers, and you should need to pay people above the minimum wage if they are having to do some horrible work like cleaning and fruit-picking.
Niamh
2007-10-05 14:48:16 UTC
They are against it because they refuse to understand it.Ignorance is a comfort to the uneducated.A lot of people's prejudiced views are wrapped in cotton wool by propaganda.That way they can remain blissfully unaware of the benefits of having immigrant workers and their plights to find a better standard of living even though they have had to make huge sacrifices to achieve it.Those very standards are shunned by the people who moan as not good enough for them.That is why all the crap jobs are taken by desperate migrant workers who get on with it to send a bit of money back home where it is needed.



jugglermatt1......I'll join the celebrations too...nice one.
2007-10-05 14:40:58 UTC
There are several Polish girls working in the local hotels where I live and they all speak very good English and without exception they are charming,pleasant and hard working.The owner of one of the hotels gave up trying to recruit local people as they just weren't interested and now relies solely on Polish employees.
sarahmac
2007-10-07 15:42:36 UTC
i live abroad & had the image of pols scrounging.. This summer i came to the Uk & i must admit i really met some llovely ploish people, they worked hard were friendly & clean, sorry to say this but i had the impression from the papers that they were all gypos like the romanians, now i think they are the ones to watch out for!!!! Mind you why do they want to work in london the rents so high
jory
2007-10-05 15:32:52 UTC
The problem with mass economic migration is that it is a backword step for any society.



The economy that is migrated to, has failed in training its workforce to fulfill the needs of society, and failed in ensuring the rights of its citizens.



The economy that is migrated from, has failed in ensuring the basic needs of its citizens.



A thriving nation has at its heart, the provision of a decent life and education for all.



Whenever mass migration takes place it is as a result of citizens being failed by their ruling institutions.
jugglermatt1
2007-10-05 14:42:30 UTC
Im with you on this one.They work very hard , are dependable, and walk around with smiles on their faces. They do the jobs that us English dont want to do, and they do these jobs much better than we ever managed to do them.Their hard work and sweat pays for our ageing population, but some moan.

I think we should have a big party as thanks to all the foreign workers in the UK.We could all get drunk together.
2007-10-05 14:38:15 UTC
They are against it for reasons like: Somebody told them in the pub that their wife read it in a newspaper, so it must be true.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
Misiek
2007-10-05 14:59:06 UTC
Yeah,its a good question.Why some of you are againts economic immigration if they do shitty jobs for you.Hopefully,I wont be one of them.Polish patriot .
♥SPARKLES♥™
2007-10-05 14:39:56 UTC
they don't bother me


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